“Kill The Infidel”

[UPDATE, April 8,2013: When I wrote this post I had not yet read The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades) by Robert Spencer.


This book is an excellent resource for anyone who wishes to examine the basis for saying Islam and the Koran teach Muslims to “kill the infidel.”  Today, many Muslims deny this teaching of their religion, claiming in response that those of us who accuse Islam of it are ignorant and do so out of hatred for them.  As someone who is well-informed on the subject, I see the real ignorance belonging to those who refuse to acknowledge or examine reality.  And it is that type of ignorant person who becomes prey to the deceptions of Islam.]

To my post “Educated Idiots” Twinkle Um of SkyeNoor commented, “Greetings, according to you “The Koran teaches that if a non-Muslim refuses to convert to Islam, you should kill them.” Would you bear to share the chapter and verse of the quran where this injunction is stated?”  My reply — basically to read the Koran for yourself — was perhaps a bit too curt and off-putting.  But there is a good reason for that.

The use of the word, “Greetings” gave me the impression that Twinkle is not your typical “man on the street”.  The phrase, “chapter and verse” implied an invitation to a polemic debate.  And the use of the word, “bear”, either a misspelling of care or a hint of condescension, sent up red flags that Twinkle was angry and ready to rage against me for daring to say what the Koran teaches.

Now, you may well say that was never Twinkle’s intent, that it’s all in my imagination.  But who you are and what you have to say is all communicated by the words you use, particularly in blogging.  If I misread Twinkle’s intent, then Twinkle needs to work on better communication skills.

That said, I think Americans should understand that Islam poses a real threat to freedom, not only because it produces terrorism, but because the Islamic world view is not compatible with the ideals of individualism, equality and freedom.  Those are all Western traditions, primarily arising from Biblical concepts.  So, if Twinkle (or anyone else) truly wants to know “chapter and verse” about the Koran and the injunction to kill the infidel, I’ve decided to present a few resources that have been helpful to me.

Years ago, when I first did a search on “kill the infidel”, I was able to quickly find sites that presented translations of the Koran with a search feature.  It was a fairly straight forward matter of finding the verses I was looking for.  But as more westerners began to learn and talk about this aspect of Islam (before 911 not that many cared), Islamic apologists began to obfuscate the matter.  Now, that same search produces a high percentage of sites that ask the question, “Does the Koran really say to kill the infidel?”

There is a specific reason for this.  As I wrote about in my post, “Islamodeception”, Muslims are permitted to lie and deceive in order to further their cause.  This practice is institutionalized in principles named taqiyya and kitman (http://danielpipes.org/comments/25320).  So, in terms of debating a Muslim, nothing they say is trustworthy.  They will say anything to keep you ignorant.  A good introductory video, eight minutes long, is “Three Things About Islam” (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w).

Or, you may want to watch Geert Wilders’ short film, Fitna (http://jihadwatch.org/2008/03/here-is-fitna.html).  Be warned, it shows a beheading.  Basically, all the film does is to take verses from the Koran and illustrate them with news footage of current events that illustrate those verses.  Wilders said, “Islam is the Trojan Horse in Europe” in a speech before the Dutch Parliament (http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=9929).

If you reject the above as extremist, Islam-hating propaganda, then consider Bridgit Gabriel (http://actforamericaeducation.com/).  She has a unique perspective.  Born into the Muslim culture, she narrowly escaped beheading at age 13 and is now an American Christian.  I suggest you read two of her books: “Because They Hate” and “They Must Be Stopped”.

But if you think she is too extreme, check out http://www.islam-watch.org/.  The first paragraph of their “About” page reads, “We are a group of Muslim apostates, who have left Islam out of our own conviction when we discovered that Islam is not a religion at all. Most of us took a prolong (sic) period of time to study, evaluate, and contemplate on, this religion of our birth. Having meticulously scrutinized Islam, we concluded that it is not a religion of peace at all, as touted by smooth-talking, self-serving Muslims and their apologists from non-Muslim from (sic) backgrounds. The core of Islam—that is, the Qur’an, Hadis and Sharia—is filled with unbounded hatred for the unbelievers, unbelievably intolerant toward them and extremely cruel and merciless to Muslims, who dare to deviate from its doctrine.”

Or, perhaps you simply want to see for yourself and judge for yourself exactly what the Koran teaches.  Go to http://www.jihadwatch.org/.  Under “Pages”, check out their “Qur’an Commentary”.  Because it was a blog, the end of the Koran is at the top of the page and the beginning is at the bottom.  You can click on any verse you choose and it gives you the commentary.  For instance, if you wanted to examine Sura 8:39, you click on that section (Blogging the Qur’an: Sura 8, “Booty,” verses 31-75) and an excellent examination of those verses is given, plus bloggers’ comments.

Similar to the fact that there are different Bible translations, the Koran also has text variations, depending on who translated it from the Arabic.  The three major English renderings of the Koran or Qur’an, (remember, the English spelling is just a phonetic representation of the Arabic) are by Yusuf Ali, Marmaduke Pickthall and Muhammad Habib Shakir.  Note the variations of Sura 8:39:

YUSUFALI:  And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere; but if they cease, verily Allah doth see all that they do.

PICKTHAL:  And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah. But if they cease, then lo! Allah is Seer of what they do.

SHAKIR:  And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah; but if they desist, then surely Allah sees what they do.

Despite text variations, all three versions use the word “fight”.  Muhammad himself said: “I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah, …”   The sense of “fighting” here means going to war.  And war means putting your enemies to the sword.  The idea that this really means an inner struggle or Jihad to become a better person by doing good or being of service to others is nonsense intended for consumption by the gullible West.  For additional information, see “What does the Religion of Peace Teach about Violence (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm).

Wake up people!


For an informative lecture by Dr. Bill Warner (45 minutes in length) on the history of Islamic violence against the “infidel”, watch the video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y&feature=player_embedded

[UPDATE]:  From Robert Spencer’s The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam:

The clearest and most accurate English translation is that of N. J. Dawood, The Koran (Penguin), but Muslims tend to dislike it because Dawood was not a Muslim.


About retiredday

I am Michael D. Day, a regular, everyday guy -- retired. I stand for God-given freedom, which means I think for myself. I believe in being civil, because the Bible teaches that we should love our enemies. But I also believe in saying it how I see it, and explaining just why I see it that way, sort of like 2 Timothy 4:2.
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